MAC64 & Silver added to the collection

November 2017

A small add appeared on the Dutch Marketplace. Several Commodore 64’s, books and a lot of cartridges for sale. My eye caught something unusual, a device with MAC64 printed on it. I tried to find any info on that one, and the only thing i could find was the following article:

I seems that i found an oscilloscope, volt meter and logic analyzer for the Commodore 64!

Decided on bidding, and for three hectic days i was bidding against some other interested buyers, ending up with a final bid of 170 euro. Quit promising.

Seller Jan was selling this set from Vrieschel00, norther part of Holland (very nothern part…). A two hour drive,  and that after a long day of work. Had a nice chat and a cup of tea with Jan and his wife. They moved over there from Noord-Holland and he was selling the set for a friend over there. If I remember correctly I ended up with four big boxes full of Commodore related goodies to take home!

Although the MAC64 cartridge was working, i was missing the actual probe for measuring.  Since the actual company which made them back then was still in operation, I contacted Rob of Maris Electronics. He still had one available, after 30 years and it is now  being shipped to the Netherlands, thanks Rob!!! Upon receiving i can test the device. The unit was complete including all documentation.

With the collection came some Commodore PET books, which i could immediately sell for 60 euros, which was a nice surprise. Was not expecting that those books where valued that much.

Second surprise was a “silver label” without a silver label 😉 One of the C64’s was an rather low serial number (WGC5072) with a board KU14194HB. Together with the 326298 boards they are considered the “silver labels”, early ’82/’83 C64’s. The SID chip was broken, but replaced with a working ’82 one which i still had. The actual silver label itself was replaces by an rainbow one. This could mean two things, either the upper part of the casing was replaced, or the C64 came back from official repairs (RMA). Commodore replaced the actual silver label back then with the rainbow one after repairs. I took a better look at the board, and noticed some soldering repairs at the power switch. Guess it was an RMA, but still very happy with this one.

All the programming books went to Dion in Leiden, he is more into the programming aspects of the Commodore 64.

Jan informed me a week later that he had another Commodore 64C,  boxed,  with quit some cartridges, about 8. He shipped it to me for 50 euro’s. Besides the “normal” Power Cartridges and Final Cartridges, I  got the Viditel Telesoft Terminal 64, a light pen, a Com-in 64, eprommer, userport extender, cartridge port expander etc. Forgot to make any photo’s of the whole set!

The Com-In 64 is communications interface for radio communications, manual included and written, again, by Rob Maris (MAC64). This one is sadly enough incomplete, seemed that a the actual I/O board is missing.

I published a short message on Facebook about the MAC64 , and the next day the guy who was bidding against me contacted me. He would like to buy some of the books which already ended up at somebody else, weird story. But I guess he was expecting to buy some Apple Macintosh stuff due to the name “MAC64”.  Otherwise it is just weird why you want to offer 170 euro for just some books.

In the end he bought a C64C and 1541-II drive set from me last month, came by train and that is some dedication to get a C64!

 

 

 

 

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Memories

Guess i was thirteen I think and totally fascinated with the upcoming microcomputer market. Almost every boy on the “HAVO” (school of higher general secondary education), had one already, mostly a C64. But not me. They were quit expensive, and no way my parents would give me one. I got myself a job for the weekends and holidays in the local zoo (Burger’s Zoo). Worked every free hour which i could, i think for more than one and a half year, to get me that Commodore 64 and disk drive. Guess that the working rate at that age was like 1 euro per hour…

In the meanwhile…there was a little computer shop on the corner of the Cronjestraat and Sonsbeeksingel in my hometown. It’s not there anymore. I think it was spring when there was a notice behind the window that there was a programming contest, in which you could win a Sinclair Spectrum, probably the ZX80/81. But without a computer or actual programming experience it was an impossible task. Remembering my parents asking friends of them, they had some elder sons, if they could write a small program to for fill a certain task. The most compact and shortest online would win. I send in that program, and the whole summer…on a weekly basis i walked in that shop. Closed the door, cause they would publish the winner on that door and prayed that i would have won…

It took months…of visiting….just checking that list. Won’t be guessing what the guys in the shop must have been thinking. And of course i didn’t win 🙂

I think my dad got his first “pc prive” computer from work, a Corona. I remember endless playing of Leisure Suite Larry, programming basic and working in Lotus 123. My dad never worked on his computer, i actually claimed it. The Corona PC was from 1983 on. And not quit sure how this one, and my C64 ambitions fit the timeline correctly anymore.

Anyway, got my Commodore, disk drive and datasette. A small black and white television to connect to it. Started playing games (Boulder Dash, oh yes), copying games, I remember Hong Man, his parents had a Chinese restaurant on the Hommelseweg, and we shared and copied loads of tapes with games. And of course my buddy during those school years, Patrick Peren, my BFF back then 😉

He actually had *everything*, the MPS 802 printer, the Commodore monitor, a Powercartridge etc 😉 We enjoyed those years.

I was fascinated by the digital technology, the electronics, graphics and programming. I couldn’t understand a lot of it, but so much was possible and within reach. Got myself, I think, a Final Cartridge and later the Expert Cartridge. Bought the German magazine, the 64’er, and tried to type over the endless basic and machine language listings.

The freezer cartridges and the sprites, you could actually steal the sprites in those games. And i started working on my first big program, in basic and machine language. Spritehunter was born. I got to version 3.0 and i still have it. A never finished program to steal, manage and manipulate sprites in everyway possible. Decided on never ending new functionalities. The program still works, will publish later on this one. It still starts with a screen with all the bugs still needed fixing and unfinished functionality.

It is that box with floppies which made me started collecting again in 2017. Al those nice childhood memories, and all the tech stuff which was fascinating. There was always a lot on my wishlist what i would love to have, but no money for it. Now, having time and money, I can relive that period. I can actually now try working with all those goodies i can get my hands on and afford, all the Cat & Korsh stuff, eprommers and other exotic hacking cartridges. Fun to do!

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About, and when it all started..

Frank, good whiskey year of ’71, Netherlands. Working in IT field.

It all started back in ’86/’87 with my own Commodore 64. Sold it probably in ’90…and then we’ll hop over to the summer of 2017, clearing some boxes at home to find some  5 1/4 disks, containing my own written programs in basic and machine language from back then. Curious what was on them, I  decided that i should own a Commodore 64 again!

Got myself a nice set…to get caught with a small collecting virus.  Started collecting since September 2017 (see article wishlist).

Since September the collection was growing steadily. I met a lot of nice people, and some weird, while searching through collectors land. Bought a lot of commodores, just to keep some of what was offered, selling the rest. Found out that quit a lot of what was offered needed repairing, so I needed to dust of my electronics knowledge as well. All these stories of collecting might be worth while of writing down, at the least, cause I think it’s fun to do!

I guess there are not a lot blogs with transparency about what they buy, from whom, the stories behind it and what collecting costs. Seems that talking about pricing, the mistakes and the luck is not something a collector writes about. So I  guess it’s more like a diary full of funny, and some weird stories,, about collecting, collectors and those who actually owned a Commodore for over 30 years and decided to sell it.

It’s about how a collection grows, and what it actually costs…because a hobby of an enthusiastic Commodore fan does not make any money..it just costs money and a lot of time!

Hopefully someone enjoys this

 

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C64c boxed, two boxed joysticks, games and…FC III boxed? added to the collection

December 2017,

Early December i bought a boxed C64c, boxed joysticks and a Final Cartridge II, it seems, in orginal “box” and some games in Belgium. Was a bit of a hassle, using google translate and then shipping seems to be quite expensive. Monika and Jean-pierre seemed to have family near Zoetermeer and are visiting them after the holidays, will pick up the set from there. Paid like 82 euro for the set, which is a bit over actual pricing….but if you do search google for the orginal FC III box….it is impossible to find. I think it was either a small cardboard box or just even a plastic one with a cardboard manual (just one sheet)…cannot remember.

But it’s weird you cannot actually find pictures of the box it came in?

Anyway, I couldn’t see it very well on the photo, guess that the set, joysticks and games will cover costs or will be included in my collection.

Maybe it is my lucky day and the C64c is a nice early version which i’m still looking for.

Since then i copy all photo’s of things i buy, so i can use them for posting.

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Epyx Fastload cartridge & Pitfall, Slik Stik joysticks, 1541 and breadbox 64 added to the collection

December 2017

Just agreed on buying this set, primarily for the Epyx Fastload cartridge and the joysticks. Seller is Marcel, nice guy, with his own shop in second hand computers, repairs and other support. Since i had some bad luck in buying commodores lately, for which i payed a price as working ones but in the end did have problems, i decided for testing. Will meet him beginning next year, take my deadtest cartridge, gamecartridge, powersaver and monitor with me…just to be sure 🙂

For the curious ones, i paid a collectors price, 85 euro. Which is close to or a bit over for what it is actually worth. If indeed working. We will see.

I got the Epyx Fastload Reloaded cartridge at home, which i bought with my SD2IEC flashdrive (from the Future Was 8bit). Definitely a good buy.

The original cartridge was on my wishlist, preferable boxed. Saw one for an astonishing price on eBay, and i missed one for decent pricing on a Facebook offer. But at least i can add the cartridge to the collection.

 

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Programming the 6502 – Rodney Zaks added to the collection

December 201

Thanks to Dion I ordered the “Programming the 6502”, Rodney Zaks from Thriftbooks.com. With a coupon code and shipping included, a whopping 8 dollars. Indeed a classic which should be part of my collection.

 

 

 

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Adventuring the Retr0bright world – Part 1

Since i still have about 12 non working commodore, waiting for repairs..and some of them in an awful state i decided to look into fixing yellow coloring of the cases…seems that treatment with Peroxide is the way to go! After watching quit some YouTube video’s i decided that the way forward with plastic wrapping and sunlight was too much of an hassle. However the 8-bit guy did a video on YouTube in which he tested several methods of cleaning the cases..and it seems that a good working method is using Peroxide with just heat, which looked more promising and much easier.

Second thing to work out was how to Retr0Bright a complete casing at once. You need quit some space to have the upper and lower casing treated…

and Tad aah!

Bought at an auction last week, have to pick it up on the 29th of December.  Will start experimenting with some broken casings in January. Bought an infrared thermometer as well, as quit some 12% Peroxide.

Things to find out:

  • Can we mix water with the Peroxide, of should i use just the Peroxide
  • Will the casings evenly be cleaned
  • Can I, and how many times, reuse the Peroxide solution
  • How to keep the casings below the surface without creating how spots which are less clean
  • Will the temperature be at a steady 70 degrees Celsius
  • What duration is best, the stated 4hr?

I think the best English translation is a Chafing Dish? Bought it for 80 euro’s.

anyway, followup posting as soon as i find the time for the experiments.

 

Frank

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Wish list

I do have a list of items i would love to add to my own collection, only Commodore 64 related. I keep my collection to one item from each, so trading is mostly difficult. And I do  tend to sell duplicate items as quickly as possible, first to end discussions on the space needed for storage at home 🙂 and second to keep at least the hobby a little bit affordable! Upon getting an existing item, in better shape or boxed, will results in selling the other one!

This means that i have to pay up for constantly extending my collection and I will pay a fair amount for items I am looking for, probably not the ridiculous pricing as you can find on Ebay. If you do want the highest price and are just in it for the money, skip me and please go over there! This is still a fun hobby, and I will keep it that way.

I do prefer items boxed, complete and working. Not interested in anything which was not actually on the (European) market in those years. I have absolutely zero interest in items like the Max, Drean or Australian Commodore 64 versions, not in the Gold one or the 65…besides some of them will cost a small fortune.

Must it be mint? Nah. Good working (clean) state is perfect for something that is 30 years old. Seals? Nah. Original bill of sale, Nah. Previous been repaired, well let’s discuss that one..for some items you probably don’t have a choice. Sometimes you just have to accept repairs for electronic items of this age. And if they are done by someone who has some mad repair skills….it is acceptable 😉

If you can help me on these specific items, out please contact me, and let’s discuss pricing and shipping!

Top searchlist at the moment:

  • Turbo Trans hardware speeldloader set (with ram floppy; Roßmöller);
  • RapiDOS (us version, based on professional dos);
  • Rex 9901 Turbo Extreme (cartridge, cable and kernal board C64 and 1541);
  • Gun Stick (Spanish light gun);
  • C64 and C64c Drean;
  • Commodore 64C, late edition, with the logo embossed in the casing (engraved logo);
  • A final cartridge II with the scroller on the screen says “final cartidge 2”;
  • Final Cartridge clones;
    • Cabletronic VCF 280;
    • The Ice Machine;
    • Different custom made clones;
    • German “Medica” manuals for the FC and FC III
  • Boxed Final Chesscard (have one, looking for a complete boxed one);
  • KCS Eprommer (have one, looking for a complete boxed one);
  • Stack light rifle with box;  (still looking for manual and tapes);
  • Cat & Korsh boxes;
  • Any sprite and assembler software;
  • SSI Dungeons and Dragon games, especially the Dungeon Master Assistant vol.2.

Commodore:

  • Commodore 64 GS (Game System, boxed, complete);
  • Commodore 4064/Educator64;
  • Commodore 64G with dark keyboard, sealed;
  • Commodore 64 with factory error rainbow label;

Books:

  • Commodore 64 Programmer’s Reference Guide (Commodore), first edition, first printing;
  • Commodore 64 Programmers’s Reference Guide (Howard W. Sams & Company).

Manuals:

  • 1701 & 1702 & 1801 & 1901
  • VC/VIC 1540 & 1541

Monitor:

  • Commodore 1084S-D

Software:

Misc:

  • Cassette/tape of the Trojan Cad-master light pen;

Games:

  • Original boulder dash games (I,II, III, construction kit, both disk and tape);
  • Boulder Dash Lost Caves series (still looking for any edition < 8, the 12 and 14th edition);

Disk drives:

Have quite some drives in the collection, in good condition,  but not all boxed, so looking for the following drives boxed:

  • SFD-100 (with or without box)
  • VC-1541 boxed
  • VIC-1541 boxed

Cat & Korsh International:

They were in the early Commodore 64 years one of the larger Dutch companies and were quit successful in all kinds of hardware extensions for the C64. I remember having the Expert Cartridge of Cat & Korsh, while everyone else was having a Power Cartridge or the Final Cartridge. And just drooling over the ad’s back then…all those interesting addons for the Commodore I could not afford back then!

Looking for the Eprom eraser, 1MB epromboard, 32k/64k Eprom programmer, sound digitizer, light pen, digital drum system, Magic Formel cartridge, video digitizer, Diskmate II, i/o switch unit, Smart cart 8kb/32kb

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